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turbopreludedriver2007 03-02-2007 04:06 PM

STI or EVOIX?
 
so which one is a better car? STI or EVOIX? which one is the easiest and cheapest to add alot more hp? which one is worth the money?

Guerillah 03-02-2007 04:12 PM

evo ix, handle better, mods easier/cheaper, better engine

honduh_head 03-02-2007 04:13 PM

evo...out of the two the evo is the only one in the 8's...and the IX's have dope cams for stockers

honduh_head 03-02-2007 04:14 PM

btw, the hardest thing for me to say....ever

*inFamous* 03-02-2007 04:23 PM

i love the evo, but everyone i know who owns one wants an Sti. Why? rear diff and transmission/clutch issues.

HEADSHOT 03-02-2007 04:24 PM

ive always heard that its harder to get hp outa the suby motor then the evo

fivesfe 03-02-2007 04:36 PM

that is what i have seen. the subie engines are a bit more picky/fragile.

Guerillah 03-02-2007 04:40 PM

The evo ix has no such issues. I havent seen anyone bust a diff yet on the IX and the stock clutch last fine with my 35R and stock turbo pulling 1.70 60fts.

F40 03-02-2007 04:41 PM

My friends IX is on its second tranny rebuild and 3rd clutch.

Guerillah 03-02-2007 04:42 PM

Sorry to say your friend doesn't know how to drive. Tell him to get an auto.

The best engineered transmission in the world isn't going to save itself from somebody mis-shifting/grinding gears or somebody who doesn't know how to properly use a clutch.

Guerillah 03-02-2007 04:54 PM

Hmm, pretty weird how these guys running 12's-13's are blowing trannys when theres an evo running 8s at 160+mph on 100% stock one and god knows how many on running 9s and 10s.

Also, lets clarify.. when you guys are saying they are going through these trannys, what is the reason? Gears shattering, or just grinding shifts? If its grinding shifts, its caused by the operator, not the tranny itself. All it takes is a good couple mis-shifts to fuck over the syncros.

F40 03-02-2007 04:57 PM

He knows how to drive just fine... When gears start grinding like mad and when the car won't stay in gear within a few hundred miles of being driven off the lot, something is wrong...

Also, what are your 1/4 mile times and trap speeds?

Guerillah 03-02-2007 05:06 PM

91mph in the 1/8th, 114mph in the 1/4 due to the short ass gearing on stock turbo, 12.1 in 100 degree heat.

installed gt35r, got it tuned, then sold it. never ran it at the track for fear of the clutch going out launching 450+awhp but 11.0-11.5 at over 125mph+ would be my guess. No tranny or clutch issues at all during the time.

F40 03-02-2007 05:09 PM

My friends 8 was 400+whp stock turbo and he went through one stock clutch in 16K miles... He ran a 12.2 in the 320whp range.

nolongervtec 03-02-2007 05:58 PM

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evo will give you more hp for your money, sti you pretty much have to stock pile your parts and install them all at once so that you wont be having to get a reflash after every bolt on you throw at it. if you want something that looks good along with daily comfort id say the sti (04-05 my preference). if you want all out hp then id say the evo....downside of the evo is that it looks like a lancer minus the intercooler, big ass wing, brembos and awd thats my .02

chargespeed FTW

ILIKETODRIVE 03-02-2007 06:00 PM

I <3 both.

If I got the EVO, I'd build it for track duty. If I got the STI, I'd build it to be a street whore.

Littlefoot 03-02-2007 06:00 PM

:crazy:

Littlefoot 03-02-2007 06:02 PM

to each his own...

Littlefoot 03-02-2007 06:03 PM

:crazy:

MOD's Spell Checker 03-02-2007 06:21 PM

Ditto. Great minds think alike, Simon.

Integra3586 03-02-2007 07:39 PM

very informative posts

i personally would like to own an sti, its mainly personal preference tho, i trust Subaru over Mitsubishi.

RhdRicheeee 03-02-2007 07:43 PM

make a poll

enigma94 03-02-2007 07:55 PM

There are a lot of people having these issues with the evos, but none of them have anything to do with the car itself. Its due to tha fact that people DONT KNOW HOW TO LUANCH A AWD CAR. They launch the shit like they are in some FAF movie then complain when their clutch goes out at 10k.

As far as HP, the evo is hands down the better of the 2 in that department. The STi's from what i have read are basically a WRX with a bigger turbo as far as the motor goes. so its much closer to being topped out to the ammount of HP it can hold at stock spec. Where as the evo is built to hold the 300hp and its the base starting point. throw a gt35 on it (arround 3500) and your looking at roughly 450-500 HP.

I've tossed and turned about getting a evo, they are great to drive under 75mph but up in the top end the 16g really suffers with the AWD and drivetrain power loss.

noVtecHERE 03-02-2007 08:16 PM

Im for the Suby!

94accordx 03-02-2007 08:23 PM

evo 4 sure they r sick in everyway

Neebs 03-02-2007 08:23 PM

Suby FTW!

bmxican 03-02-2007 08:28 PM

i'm just really partial to suby's IDK why.

EvilSol 03-02-2007 09:06 PM

x2 :wave:

ZonaAltima 03-03-2007 12:52 AM

The Suby will be by FAR more reliable, has a lower center of gravity (flat four boxer engine) and relies on less boost to make its 293 hp and 293 lb. of torque (The base Subaru 2.5 boxer engine has slightly more displacement and the base 2.5 makes 173 hp). Overall, both are great cars (and btw, this discussion seems to come up every month or so,) so most would lucky to have either, yada yada yada. Go out and test drive both if you are serious, otherwise visit any Subaru, EVO, or boosted AWD forum and read this debate played out literally thousands of times. Both are great cars, but I would take the STI over the EVO hands down.

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turbopreludedriver2007 03-03-2007 01:55 AM

well thanks you guys for your input.. and to you guys who simply said "yea go subby!!" or "evo all the way" thanks for nothing because i didnt ask for any opinions, im looking for examples, statistics, or general knowlege of the cars. so you guys who actually said meaningful stuff thanks. im really leaning towards sti. i just really dont know that much about subarus =/


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